[Bboa-members] RE: Marina Security Meeting

Thu Aug 10 22:14:59 PDT 2006

I don't understand what is so difficult or expensive about placing cameras
in strategic places in the Marina. Some of my dock mates in PV have cameras
on their masts rotating 360 degrees and wireless connections to their
computers. Skype gives me a picture of who I'm talking to no matter where
they are. Is it getting power to the devices that runs the bill up? How much
does a solar panel and battery cost? The cruising world lives on 12 volts
and powers their camera toys thusly.

Dave Hamilton

 From: bboa-members-bounces at berkeleyboa.org
[mailto:bboa-members-bounces at berkeleyboa.org] On Behalf Of Tom & Lori
Jeremiason
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 8:14 PM
To: 'Janet Cobb'
Cc: 'BBOA'
Subject: RE: [Bboa-members] RE: Marina Security Meeting

The problem with the Kiosk (Guard Shack) is that if you close the Marina at
11pm, what do you do with the people already inside the Marina. 

The problem people and the thieves will just enter before 11pm.  There are
no current laws that forbid you from being in the Marina after 11 so the
police cannot chase anyone out even if they had the staffing to do that. 

So once the bad guys are in they will have the run of the Marina since the
guard is sitting at the front gate.

You also run into the problems with the Fishing Pier. What if I am fishing
on the pier, do I have to leave at 11pm? What if I want to go to the to the
pier  after 11pm? How do you make sure I am going fishing and not coming
committing crimes? 

Can the City close the pier from 10pm to 6am like the current park curfews?

How about berther guests? How do you ensure that someone who says they are
going to visit Mr Smith on the A Dock after 11pm is really going there?

No plan is perfect, but I believe a mobile patrol is much more effective
than a static guard at a Kiosk. Especially, if the Guard is in a marked city
vehicle and has the ability to communicate with the police department. 

I can think of several examples: 

*	A mobile Security Guard finds a large group of people drinking in
H's Lordships parking lot. The guard could call police and the police could
take action (Before the next gang shooting). 

*	The Security Guard sees a suspicious vehicle in a parking lot. The
Security Guard writes down the license number of the suspicious vehicle and
notifies the Police. The next day an auto is burglarized or stolen. Now the
police have a lead. 

*	A mobile Security Guard can lock gates and become familiar with the
area and its residents after hours. 

Tom Jeremiason

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From: Janet Cobb [mailto:jscobb at californiaoaks.org] 
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 2:02 PM
To: jeremiason at gmail.com
Subject: RE: [Bboa-members] RE: Marina Security Meeting

Tom, I disagree.  Most of the problems at the Marina take place after 11
p.m.  Having some controll at the main access point would eliminate much of
the car-stealing and auto parts re-distribution activity that takes place.
Even gangs, if they knew there was a main surveillance camera, might be
deterred.  That would allow the security person to do as you suggest.  As it
is, one person is highly ineffective because of the geography of the area to
be patrolled.  People who live here don't even know what is going on, let
alone someone who is over at A-E while batteries are being taken out of cars
near M,N and O, or kids are shotting one another in Hs Lordships' Parking
Lot.  The area is too big for one person to be really effective.  It will
take everyone who lives, works and has responsibilities in any way here, to
wake up and report difficulties to the Marina-Waterfront office staff and to
Police. Janet  

Paul

Sounds great, the problem is the gate couldn't be closed until the
Hotel/Restaurants closed their dinning rooms. That would be about 11pm. Then
there is the use of the Berkeley Pier, which as you know has 24 hour access.
Also how do you confirm that someone who is entering the marina is going
where they are saying they are going? Finally, how do you limit pedestrian
traffic - Virginia Street access?

I believe the roving security patrol with the ability to call police will be
highly effective and more bang for the buck. The Security Officer could
drive parking lots, lock gates (i.e.: Spinnaker Circle or maybe a new gate
at H's Lordships), walk docks and provide a presence in the Marina after
normal business hours. 

Tom Jeremiason

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From: Paul Kamen [mailto:pk at well.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 1:31 PM
To: Tom & Lori Jeremiason; Linda Maio
Cc: BBOA; boardplus at berkeleyyc.org
Subject: Re: [Bboa-members] RE: Marina Security Meeting

I still think the most effective (and cost-effective) security measure we
could take would be the entry gate and kiosk, probably located somewhere
just west of Seabreeze on U. Ave. There are some cuts in the center median
strip wide enough for the kiosk and a turn-around. 

The gates would be open all day and evening, closed late at night. You would
need to show a marina key, hotel room key, have a verifiable late dinner
reservation, etc. to get through after hours. 

The access road to Brickyard Cove marina has a nice example of an entry
kiosk. I've never seen anyone in it, but it does give the impression of some
form of controlled access. Then the driveway into the Brickyard Cove parking
lot has a code-operated gate. The gate is left open during the day and
evening, closed late at night.

The whole idea here is to leave daytime access completely unimpeded so we
don't have to compromise the public character of the marina - but also
impose tight access control late at night, and at least the perception that
there is some form of exit control in response to a real-time crime report. 

On 8/10/2006 at 11:21 AM Tom & Lori Jeremiason wrote:

Linda:

I just spoke with Susan Riche about the meeting and she brought me up to
date. I am emailing the Berkeley Boat Owners the highlights right now...

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Paul Kamen
Chair, Berkeley Waterfront Commission
510-540-7968  510-219-8106 (cell)
pk at well.com  
 <http://www.berkeleywaterfront.org/> 
www.BerkeleyWaterfront.org <http://www.berkeleywaterfront.org/> 

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