[Bboa-members] RE: Marina Security Meeting

[laura a watt]

is there any data on what effect putting in the 
unmanned key-gate at Emeryville's public marina 
has had on crime there?  they installed that 
thing at least two years ago, it closes at 11pm 
or so, and the folks I know in that marina seem 
to think it's helped make the place safer...

laura


Tom wrote:
The problem with the Kiosk (Guard Shack) is that 
if you close the Marina at 11pm, what do you do 
with the people already inside the Marina.

The problem people and the thieves will just 
enter before 11pm.  There are no current laws 
that forbid you from being in the Marina after 11 
so the police cannot chase anyone out even if 
they had the staffing to do that.

So once the bad guys are in they will have the 
run of the Marina since the guard is sitting at 
the front gate.

You also run into the problems with the Fishing 
Pier. What if I am fishing on the pier, do I have 
to leave at 11pm? What if I want to go to the to 
the pier  after 11pm? How do you make sure I am 
going fishing and not coming committing crimes?

Can the City close the pier from 10pm to 6am like the current park curfews?

How about berther guests? How do you ensure that 
someone who says they are going to visit Mr Smith 
on the A Dock after 11pm is really going there?

No plan is perfect, but I believe a mobile patrol 
is much more effective than a static guard at a 
Kiosk. Especially, if the Guard is in a marked 
city vehicle and has the ability to communicate 
with the police department.

I can think of several examples:


A mobile Security Guard finds a large group of 
people drinking in H's Lordships parking lot. The 
guard could call police and the police could take 
action (Before the next gang shooting).
The Security Guard sees a suspicious vehicle in a 
parking lot. The Security Guard writes down the 
license number of the suspicious vehicle and 
notifies the Police. The next day an auto is 
burglarized or stolenŠ Now the police have a lead.
A mobile Security Guard can lock gates and become 
familiar with the area and its residents after 
hours.

Tom Jeremiason

From: Janet Cobb [mailto:jscobb at californiaoaks.org]
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 2:02 PM
To: jeremiason at gmail.com
Subject: RE: [Bboa-members] RE: Marina Security Meeting

Tom, I disagree.  Most of the problems at the 
Marina take place after 11 p.m.  Having some 
controll at the main access point would eliminate 
much of the car-stealing and auto parts 
re-distribution activity that takes place.  Even 
gangs, if they knew there was a main surveillance 
camera, might be deterred.  That would allow the 
security person to do as you suggest.  As it is, 
one person is highly ineffective because of the 
geography of the area to be patrolled.  People 
who live here don't even know what is going on, 
let alone someone who is over at A-E while 
batteries are being taken out of cars near M,N 
and O, or kids are shotting one another in Hs 
Lordships' Parking Lot.  The area is too big for 
one person to be really effective.  It will take 
everyone who lives, works and has 
responsibilities in any way here, to wake up and 
report difficulties to the Marina-Waterfront 
office staff and to Police. Janet 



Paul

Sounds great, the problem is the gate couldn't be 
closed until the Hotel/Restaurants closed their 
dinning rooms. That would be about 11pm. Then 
there is the use of the Berkeley Pier, which as 
you know has 24 hour accessŠ Also how do you 
confirm that someone who is entering the marina 
is going where they are saying they are going? 
Finally, how do you limit pedestrian traffic - 
Virginia Street access?

I believe the roving security patrol with the 
ability to call police will be highly effective 
and more bang for the buckŠ The Security Officer 
could drive parking lots, lock gates (i.e.: 
Spinnaker Circle or maybe a new gate at H's 
Lordships), walk docks and provide a presence in 
the Marina after normal business hours.

Tom Jeremiason




From: Paul Kamen [mailto:pk at well.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 1:31 PM
To: Tom & Lori Jeremiason; Linda Maio
Cc: BBOA; boardplus at berkeleyyc.org
Subject: Re: [Bboa-members] RE: Marina Security Meeting

I still think the most effective (and 
cost-effective) security measure we could take 
would be the entry gate and kiosk, probably 
located somewhere just west of Seabreeze on U. 
Ave. There are some cuts in the center median 
strip wide enough for the kiosk and a turn-around.

The gates would be open all day and evening, 
closed late at night. You would need to show a 
marina key, hotel room key, have a verifiable 
late dinner reservation, etc. to get through 
after hours.

The access road to Brickyard Cove marina has a 
nice example of an entry kiosk. I've never seen 
anyone in it, but it does give the impression of 
some form of controlled access. Then the driveway 
into the Brickyard Cove parking lot has a 
code-operated gate. The gate is left open during 
the day and evening, closed late at night.

The whole idea here is to leave daytime access 
completely unimpeded so we don't have to 
compromise the public character of the marina - 
but also impose tight access control late at 
night, and at least the perception that there is 
some form of exit control in response to a 
real-time crime report.


On 8/10/2006 at 11:21 AM Tom & Lori Jeremiason wrote:
Linda:

I just spoke with Susan Riche about the meeting 
and she brought me up to date. I am emailing the 
Berkeley Boat Owners the highlights right now...



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Paul Kamen
Chair, Berkeley Waterfront Commission
510-540-7968  510-219-8106 (cell)
pk at well.com 
<http://www.berkeleywaterfront.org/>www.BerkeleyWaterfront.org
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