[Bboa-members] Waterfront Commission Meeting
Paul Kamen
pk at well.com
Thu Mar 9 13:34:34 PST 2006
On 3/9/2006 at 9:19 AM Janet Cobb wrote:
>A small addition: The houseboat community has paid into the
>Marina Fund for forty years now. They have helped pay for
>maintenance, repair and replacement of docks throughout the
>Marina.
*All* the berthers have been doing that for forty years. I don't
see anything special about the houseboat community compared to
the live-aboard community or the boat-berthing community at
large. Maybe we don't have a marina-specific constitutional
"equal protection" clause, but the principle applies. In fact
for many years the floating home owners were paying less than
a live-aboard sailboat of the same length.
>They paid for their own sewers; they pay their own electrical
>and on and on.
The sewers are worn out, so that investment has pretty much
lost its value. Also, remember that only the floating home
owners need dedicated sewer lines in the first place. This has
become an extra burden imposed on marina infrastructure
maintenance by the floating homes, and not the other way
around as you suggest. (There is a pump-out station on
G-dock, so that requirement does not justify the sewers on
H and I. And besides, pump-out station sewer volume is "a drop
in the bucket" compared to sewage from floating homes.)
On electricity: All berthers pay for their own electricity,
whether via meter or via an estimated flat rate. Nothing
special about the floating homes here. I don't understand your
point at all.
>They do not go cruising and pay half fees for their slips to
>be held.
What does half-rate have to do with this? Except that the
marina usually comes out ahead on the deal when a half-rate
berth is assigned temporarily to another boat.
>They sit and pay each and every month: a dependable source
>of revenue.
Just like every other berther in the Marina.
>Yes, they pay property tax, which goes up town into the
>general fund, in addition to the fees that go into the Marina
>Fund.
I pay property taxes to Berkeley too. Every boat owner pays
property tax on their home to one city and county or another.
But marina services still come out of the Marina Fund and from
my berth payments, even though I think my property taxes to the
City and County should cover some of this. It's just as
"unfair" to me as it is to you. Really, this line of reasoning
can be carried to absurdity, but the point is that we all pay
taxes and not all of it is spent on things that we actually
use.
>They are 13 slips out of 1100, a fact that should be kept in
>mind.
I keep this very much in mind. The special interests of 13
floating home owners should be taken into account, but only in
proportion to their numbers.
>The most important fact out of this meeting is that several
>commissioners allowed as how they don't know anything about
>the docks. It makes it so much easier to make decisions when
>you don't know anything!
That statement was made in the context of the technical
decisions about dock materials and design/contracting
procedures.
Remember that some of us on the Waterfront Commission have
considerable professional experience in closely related
fields. What I see as the big problem with the H-I rebuild
as originally bid is that the dock configuration is very
different from what would be designed without accommodating
the floating homes, and this is likely to be very expensive
over the long term as lost revenue.
For starters, the new proposed berths are too big and
misplaced. There is whole row of new downwind 40-ft berths
in Emeryville, for example, still vacant 15 months after the
coming online. Our market in this size is mostly sailboats,
but these new 40-ft berths have been proposed for one of the
shallowest spots in the Marina, requiring dredging now and
likely to case a shoaling problem a few years down the road.
The market peaks in the 30-40 ft size range, and in view of
our shoaling problem outside the marina entrance, Berkeley
will become less attractive to 40 and over and more
attractive to 35 and under as time goes by.
All the other new proposed berths are 48' and 52', placed
near or between floating homes, and these have historically
been difficult to market. There have been unsold vacancies
on H and I docks for all of the eight years that I've been
reviewing the vacancy reports, this despite waiting lists
for other docks. It has been asserted that this is because
the H and I berths are cross-wind. But crosswind didn't
seem to be that much of drawback on the old F and G docks,
which were also crosswind. Some of us have been around long
enough to remember the old F and G docks, and to have
sailed in and out of them. Sure an upwind or downwind
orientation is better, but the fact is, most prospective
marina berthers in that size range would rather not place
their yacht in the middle of a houseboat community. To
assert that this problem will go away with a change to
upwind-downwind configuration is pure conjecture. Sure,
there will be a small improvement, but we will still have
a large number of new 48' and 52' berths between floating
homes that will be difficult to market.
Bottom line: The configuration of H and I as originally
bid is a substantial give-way to the floating homes. I can
understand why you want it: The value of those homes is
significantly enhanced by new docks that are designed
to optimize floating home berthing. I'd push for it too if
I were in your position. But it will have long-lasting
negative impact on the Marina Fund's balance sheet, and it's
not fair to the rest of the marina berthers who will pay the
freight.
>Per their request, I'm going to give a walk through to a
>couple of Commissioners. I suggest that others may want
>to do the same, or perhaps we should coordinate a Boat
>Owner's Association tour of the docks. Please advise.
>Janet
We all recognize that docks H and I are in poor condition.
But I have to wonder about your cleat pull-outs, Janet.
Those docks were designed for boats having maybe one tenth
the crosswind "sail area" of a large floating home, and in
your case, didn't you just make your entire boat one deck
higher?
I think when a large high-windage box of a floating home
is put into a space designed for a yacht, some burden of
responsibility falls on the floating home owner to upgrade
the attachment points at their own expense.
Is it really fair to the entire community of Berkeley boat
berthers for the City to have to go the expense of putting
in extra pilings just to hold your oversized floating home
in place?
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Paul Kamen
Chair, Berkeley Waterfront Commission
510-540-7968 510-219-8106 (cell)
pk at well.com www.BerkeleyWaterfront.org
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