[Bboa-members] Waterfront committee Meeting, tonight! Discussing%5 fee hike

[Yana Edwin Murphy]

Paul (Zach and all),  
Once again, thanks for all of your intelligible
information!

I, too, won't be able to make tonight's meeting but would
love to add my voice in support of the plan to situate any
ferry service near the Doubletree Hotel and the Hornblower
docks on the inside of the Marina.

Thanks!!
Yana Edwin Murphy
O-604


--- Dave Hamilton <wiseweb at pacbell.net> wrote:

> All,
> Did BYC come to a conclusion regarding a bid to manage N
> and O dock?
> 
> It seems the only benefit of a inside ferry terminal is
> dredging paid by the
> ferry operator. Would this be a required part of their
> lease? Do the Ferry
> wakes add to the wear and tear on the docks? What happens
> to the overall
> traffic and parking because of the combined load from
> both a new Hotel and
> Ferry service? Parking is already scarce at times and
> there was talk about
> expanding planted areas consuming existing parking lots.
> What happened to
> that notion?
> 
> What happened to the staffing situation where employees
> were paid from the
> Marina fund but used for other Berkeley locations.
> 
> To echo Zack; thanks Paul for the time and effort you've
> devoted and thank
> you Zack for your participation.
> 
> Dave Hamilton
> S/V Sea Grace
> A 12 Paradise Marina
> Nuevo Vallarta, NAY
> Mexico
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bboa-members-bounces at berkeleyboa.org
> [mailto:bboa-members-bounces at berkeleyboa.org] On Behalf
> Of Zach Nobel
> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 10:03 AM
> To: Paul Kamen
> Cc: BBOA
> Subject: Re: [Bboa-members] Waterfront committee Meeting,
> tonight!
> Discussing%5 fee hike
> 
> 
> 
> Paul,
> 
> Thank you for your detailed response. I'm sad no one made
> it to inquire. I
> personally like the idea of a hotel near his Lordships.
> Seems like a win-win
> for everyone.
> 
> Question since you may know, is the Marina bound to
> maintain the channel
> entry for Hornblower?  What would the ferry schedule be
> like? How would
> regular large boat traffic affect the experience for
> slower moving sailboats
> in the marina?
> 
> Thanks again Paul for taking a very active interest in
> the Marina & helping
> communicate these issues with a broader public.
> 
> Unfortunately I have prior commitments tonight otherwise
> I'd do my best to
> attend the ferry meeting.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Zach
> 
> 
> On Wed, 14 Mar 2007, Paul Kamen wrote:
> 
> > On 3/14/2007 at 6:13 PM Zach Nobel wrote:
> >
> >> Anyone going to the marina meeting tonight at 7pm?
> >> They're planning to discuss the 5year forecast of
> marina , as well as %5
> >> fee hike. I encourage folks to attend & inquire what
> benefits will the
> fee
> >> hike provide.
> >> FYI,
> >> Zach
> >
> > ==============================
> >
> > Zach and BBOA: Amazingly, there was no-one there
> tonight to speak to the
> probable 5% increase.
> >
> > To summarize what I see as the marina's long-term
> options:
> >
> > 1) Continue to increase berth rates by 5% to 10% per
> year, possibly more.
> (Status quo, more or less, but relies on the shaky
> assumption that vacancy
> will not increase as a result of rate increases, and that
> we can get by
> without paying for major dredging for at least another
> three years.)
> >
> > 2) Go with a privatization arrangement as proposed by
> Pacific Marina
> Development. (Rates go up even faster, topping out at
> whatever the private
> operator sees as market level and then some, but some
> services would
> probably improve.)
> >
> > 3) Significantly increase lease revenue by allowing
> development of a new
> hotel at or near the site of Hs. Lordships restaurant.
> (Parking and traffic
> would suffer somewhat, but security situation would be
> much improved,
> especially on the south side at night.)
> >
> > 4) Convince to the City to allow the Marina to run at a
> deficit until it
> returns to break-even. (Not a very easy sell, and leaves
> the Marina Fund
> with big debts to pay off.)
> >
> > I like number three best. It's the most economical for
> berthers, in the
> long run, and the improved safety and security that a
> hotel would bring to
> the south side after hours is badly needed. City Council
> has to buy in to
> the idea of another hotel on the waterfront, though.
> >
> > Something we all can to for some medium-term cost
> savings: Thursday
> evening, March 15 (tomorrow or tonight, depending on when
> you are reading
> this) is the next "Scoping Meeting" for the Berkeley
> Ferry. This is at 6:30
> pm at the Albany Library on Marin Ave. There is no
> presentation by WTA other
> than a few posters and a short introduction. Berkeley and
> Albany residents
> will be invited to speak on what the selection criteria
> should be for
> choosing the ferry terminal site from four candidate
> locations. This always
> seems to devolve into advocacy speeches for one site over
> another, and most
> of the debate will probably be about the Gilman and
> Buchanan sites north of
> the Marina. But these are all but out of the picture
> anyway. We need to
> start lobbying for the right ferry terminal site in
> Berkeley. See my opinion
> piece in the Tuesday edition of the Daily Planet.
> >
> > The two main candidate sites remaining are: A) Near Hs.
> Lordships on the
> outside (probably requiring a new breakwater south of the
> fishing pier); and
> B) Near the Doubletree Hotel and the Hornblower docks on
> the inside of the
> Marina. We should all advocate for the inside location,
> at or near the
> Doubletree, for two reasons of special concern to the
> Marina Fund:
> >
> > 1) Locating the terminal near Hs. Lordships would make
> it much more
> difficult to site a second hotel at the Marina,
> eliminating the best option
> for pulling the Marina out of the red without placing all
> the burden on the
> berthers. That area is the only place with enough land
> and parking that has
> a view of the Bay and is not protected as park. Expensive
> hotel rooms with
> great views means more revenue into the Marina Fund and
> more commercial
> activity at other Marina restaurants, also generating
> more cash flow. This
> is a very good reason to favor the Doubletree site.
> >
> > 2) Locating the ferry terminal near Doubletree, or
> anywhere inside the
> harbor, will insure that the channel is maintained at a
> reasonable depth for
> larger boats without breaking the Marina's budget. This
> is becoming a very
> big deal. The channel depth outside the harbor, which has
> never been
> included in previous dredging projects, is going to be a
> significant
> liability if the Marina Fund has to pay for it. This is
> already reducing the
> Marina's viability for larger or more modern sailboats.
> (Plus 
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